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the president voting any remarks he brings, stay tuned here on this fox news channel we'll continue that live shot, we'll continue to track the president and will, jedediah, and i will be back here tomorrow morning for more "fox & friends" have a great saturday everybody. neil: thank you, guys, you're looking live right now at west palm beach, florida the president is in the public library there, formally voting now he's a florida resident as you know. he wanted to escape the high taxes and just the nonsense as he said at the time of new york, so this is his new voting locale. he arrived here a couple of minutes ago some of his fans have been lining up many for hours just to get an opportunity to see him. just might get that chance of when he leaves. the president is going to have a crazy schedule today in north carolina and ohio and wisconsin, tomorrow in new hampshire, then it's to pennsylvania, to michigan, wisconsin again, nebraska, utah, you talk about putting in the time and the miles right now, this is one
of the busier incumbent presidents trying to hang on to his office with a campaign schedule that is for anyone half his age, let alone 74-year-old man who apparently has more energy than a lot of the folks around him so we'll keep an eye on that and we're also keeping an eye on the fact that florida is not so a very very important state. you know 4.7 million people have already voted in florida. that's part of the nearly 54 million americans who have done so already. remember that goes up by million s a day as more ballots come in so at record levels here when all is said and done we have to 80 maybe 100 million who have voted before the big day itself, eclipsing the day of voting. first time in american history we've seen that. welcome, everybody i'm neil cavuto, and doesn't get any crazier than this , nine days away, history in the making, candidates all over the map, joe biden will even be doing some traveling today and we'll get details on that as he waits
to see the president leave that west palm beach library where he's putting in his own vote and he likes to do it in-person, telling the crowds he's old fashion that way and he even made a joke about well ale even stand in line for a couple hours if i have to. i do not think that will be a requirement for the leader of the free world, but again, it will be interesting when he comes out maybe he might talk to the press. we are joined in lumberton, north carolina that will be a big big focus certainly the trump campaign as its already been right now for joe biden & company. what are things looking like there? reporter: hi, neil we're expect ing thousands of people to be here this afternoon a lot of people are already filing in and you're right this is a very important state and we can tell that by how much time and how much money the campaign is spending in this state. this will be the president's third trip to north carolina just this month as he chris crosses the nation making his final push for a vote but not before voting himself as you
mentioned if you can pull that shot back up in west palm beach, florida president trump now joining millions of americans including millions of folks here in north carolina by voting early casting his own ballot this morning in florida. we believe that first lady melania trump was not with him and then he will head here next, one of three stops today. now trump won the tarheel state in 2016 by 173,000 votes and today more than 2.6 million residents here have already cast their ballots nearly half are democrats, neil and it makes sense there are more registered democrats even more unaffiliated voters in this state than registered republicans and that's interesting. the polls tell a different story the most recent real clear politics average shows biden and trump neck and neck here, not even a two-point margin between them and the trump camp and the rnc announced recently it'll spend $55 million on ads in north carolina and four other states in the final days leading up to this election and here is the president last night in pensacola.
president trump: the votes are coming in and we're way ahead of where we're supposed to be. in fact in some of the states we're more than even and we're not supposed to, we're supposed to be like 80/20 behind, and we're even, and in some cases we're ahead. reporter: now, neil it is very important to note that this rally is happening in a county that is, that has the third-highest infection rate in north carolina. these rallies, as you know, bring a lot of people from out of state as far as we can see some folks here are wearing masks. neil? neil: all right, thank you very very much might have been a little confusing, you're looking at west palm beach, florida here is why we're doing that. the president is voting there right now. remember he is a newly-minted florida citizen, moved out of new york and had it with the high taxes and nonsense and everything else going on and that was some time ago but this is i believe his first time voting as a florida resident right now, so we'll keep an eye
on that. he might talk to the press when he comes out in the meantime, we're going to move over to bucks county, pennsylvania and pennsylvania you might recall is very prominent on both candidate s list of states they want to visit hillary vaughn is there with the latest on what both camps are planning. hillary? reporter: hey, neil well this will be the first time that democratic nominee joe biden will face voters in pennsylvania after he made what his campaign is framing as a gaf about the oil & gas industry at thursday's debate where he said he wanted to essentially end the industry, his campaign since then has been trying to do clean up to clarify. >> let's be really clear about this. joe biden is not going to ban fracking. he is going to deal with the oil sub say subsidies but that's everything out of context. reporter: but trump is already putting that the into an ad that hit the airwaves
here in pennsylvania that features fossil fuel workers. that be the end of my job and thousands of others. >> pennsylvania is a fossil fuel state and it'll be devastating. >> a transition from the oil industry, yes. >> no ability for the oil industry to continue to drill, period, end. >> it's the end of a lot of livelihoods. president trump: i'm donald j. trump and i approve this message reporter: biden's campaign clarifies they will not shut down oil & gas. he will also, wouldn't end the oil industry right away but instead transition away from it over the next 30 years but biden has been busy, neil trying to get back on topic in wilmington yesterday he gave a 25 minute speech about coronavirus and today, he will be hosting two events in pennsylvania and it'll be interesting to see if he tries to tip toe around the topic or if he hits it head -on because that is certainly an issue that people here care about there are about 300,000 jobs here in pennsylvania that are tied to the oil & gas industry, but he
will be bringing, neil a little bit of star power with him later today on the trail. he'll be holding an event in pennsylvania with jon bon jovi. neil? neil: all right that's pretty cool. all right, hillary vaughn, thank you very much. hillary touched on it, the remarks that joe biden is trying to clarify almost every hour about transitioning away from the oil industry. this is specifically what caused this whole furor ever since from the debate a couple nights ago. take a look. >> i would transition from the oil industry yes. i would transition. president trump: that's a big statement. >> that is a big statement. >> why would you do that? >> because the oil industry pollutes significantly. president trump: i see. that's a big statement. >> well if you let me finish the statement because it has to be replaced by renewable energy. >> one final question. president trump: that's the biggest statement in terms of business because basically what he's saying is he's going
to destroy the oil industry. will you remember that, texas? will you remember that, pennsylvania, oklahoma? neil: all right, the president had a field day with that one, karl rove with us right now, carl in a state like pennsylvania that could be a big issue here, it's not reflected in the latest polls those comments and i'm wondering how it might impact polls in the keystone state now. what do you think? >> well i think it will have an impact how big we don't know but look it is worse than just what he said the other night. in his own plan, joe biden wants to end the use of gas-powered automobiles and so we're all driving electric vehicles and in the next 15 years, he wants to get rid of all the power generation that comes from fossil fuels. coal, a little bit of oil, a lot of natural gas, and in fact 70% of the electricity capacity in the country comes from power plants that are fueled by fossil fuels and in 15 years he wants
to get rid of them so the same time he's forcing us to buy electric cars so demand for electricity is growing, he's going to take out of our available supply up to 70% of the available capacity, and many of those natural gas plants are new. they can run for decades. they are low carbon intensive. they are one of the reasons why we are reducing the absolute level of greenhouse gas emissions, and he wants to take them out and think about all of the capital that's been invested in, wiped out, all of the capital that's going to have to go into creating "renewable alternatives", wind and solar, both of which are required solar requires an enormous amount of land and both it and wind are both variable sources of energy, and that's a disaster and we'll be like california only worse with plaqueouts and shortages and high prices, everybody is going to be paying higher prices because you compare what natural gas is to the cost of generating by wind or solar, and other
renewables and it is really a lot more expensive to do that. neil: yeah, the fracking billionaire, harold hamm was among those yesterday telling fox business he thinks this could have a natural gas of $6 regular gas at the rate we go with these restrictions and of course he's in the industry that might figure, but i'm curious, k arl, the comments that joe biden made even though he tried to dial them back, he has consistently said he does want to move to wind and solar, some of these cleaner energies here. he put a stamp on it yesterday by 2050 but in in other words there is a timeline for this and i'm wondering what message that would send to young people, especially those tied to the industry in states like pennsylvania what do you think? >> well if you talk to people in the energy business, they're a big issue for them is recruitment because it's becoming so sort of unattractive to being in the oil & gas industry and you're going to make it even worse but let's be clear 2050 is the end of it, he
starts immediately and he says on day one he would end fracking on federal lands and in federal waters and that will defer as tate the houston economy. houston's economy depends a lot on drilling in the gulf of mexico and if you say no more permits there it's devastating to alaska. what do you think an war is? it's federal land and if you're saying day one we'll takeaway this valuable tool that made us the number one energy producer in the world that will have a devastating effect on the energy industry on day one and then in the next 15 years, we're going to shut down all those natural gas plants, i mean there's a problem. hey this doesn't just need oil & gas. what about the rural farmers in the midwest? what does this do with ethanol? if you do away with gas-powered automobiles, what happens to ethanol? what happens to all that corn production that goes into ethanol? that's another side issue here. neil: you know, karl, you're a great historian as well and the only similar event, so close to the election that i thought of, and it wasn't that close to the election was the 1976 debate
between gerald ford and jimmy carter when gerald ford famously said there's no soviet domination of eastern europe and it disrupted momentum that he had been gaining against carter at the time. i'm not trying to equate the two but a flub like this and it's a pretty big deal can't be over stated. i'm just wondering what you think the impact will be, or is it a short-lived one and then in pennsylvania, for example, where they are worried about a spike in covid cases will that become the dominant theme for voters not so much what joe biden said on fracking or oil. >> well i think you raise an interesting point. they're not exactly similar because the statement of no soviet domination of eastern europe was a flub, this was his policy. go back and look at it. this is his policy. it was what he said in half a dozen debates and so forth. i think if biden were to win this would come back to haunt him because the campaign, what
if they walk in and on day one say no fracking on federal land and in federal waters? it will have a huge effect on the economy and people suddenly say wait a minute you said 2050 and now you're ripping the industry up in 2021, you know, there will be real questions about that. neil: all right, karl rove thank you very much my friend, karl rove following these development s very very closely. i want to back to west palm beach, floor david spunt is there and he's off on a busy day all over the map on the next nine days non-stop up into election day. david schweikert the president out of there yet, is the president waiting for them to get out of there? reporter: they're still waiting for him we're not sure what's taking so long for him to cast his ballot. he pulled in about 15 minutes ago after spending the night at mar-a-lago. neil we got here a little bit after 5:00 this morning people were playing music, dancing in
the parking lot of the local palm beach library. we have trump supporters, we have biden supporters here, very passionate crowd behind me and across the street. i believe we have a live look inside this palm beach library waiting on president trump to walk out presumably he may be making some comments after voting. neil we can tell you that mrs. trump, the first lady, is not here with him and shortly after he votes he's going to be getting on air force one heading to north carolina and then on to ohio and wisconsin and neil as you know, tomorrow nine days from the election, 10 days today , campaign aids say that president trump will be doing possibly three, maybe even four events per-day as we get closer to election day but right now we are still waiting to hear from him after he voted. neil? neil: all right thank you, my friend very very much, likely going back to you, david spunt in west palm beach where the president is voting right now, if he has anything to say, we'll bring that right to you.
in the meantime, i was talking to karl rove a little bit about this on part of joe biden or maybe reflecting how he already felt not only about fracking but the fossil fuel industry, the oil industry, phasing it out by 2050 but already beginning that process, perhaps a little sooner than most thought. whether it's going to come back to bite him in big energy states texas certainly be among them and it's said to be a safe state for republicans although polls have been fight of late. i want to go to the senator who also sits on the senate judiciary committee, busy fellow , kind enough to join us this saturday morning senator good to see you how you doing? >> good morning, neil good to be with you thanks for having me neil: same here. i do want to touch on, i mean, these comments that joe biden made in the debate about phasing out the energy industry as we know it and that is i'll oil and with the fracking cutbacks he's advocated off federal land and he was against it period he said no, no, no, i'm not against fracking but the signal he's
sending is he's not a friend of the industry and i'm wondering how that's going down in texas. >> well he's not only not a friend of the industry, he's not a friend of the people who count on the domestic energy industry for their jobs. the hundreds of thousands of people, you know, to me it just reflects his lack of understanding of how important fossil fuels still are to our economy. we're all for innovation. we're all for developing cleaner sources of energy, which natural gas, by the way, is but we also need to make sure that we accept the reality we have about 270 million cars on the road. you're not going to change the defense department's requirements for jet fuel on our f-35 or other aircraft that are in our national security so joe has done the impossible which i think he's alienated just about everybody now. he's alienated people who understand the importance of our domestic energy industry not
only here for jobs and the economy but also in terms of geopolitics, and that because he's waffled on this , i think now, he's caused a lot of questions among some of the environmental radicals who want him to go to renewable energy like next year. neil: you know, british petroleum, bp more commonly known, had begun to change or move from traditional energy sources to some of these other reuseable energies. is that a subtle way to pressure the president, by the way, hold on, senator he's speaking right now in west palm beach. i want to go to the president. president trump: i can tell you that. everything was perfect. very strict, right by the rules when you send in your ballot could never be like that. could never be secure like that. they've done a fantastic job here, great people inside, so but it's an honor to be voting and an honor to be in this great area which i know so well and we're going to make three stops today, big ones, big rallies three big ones, crowds have
never been i don't think there's ever been anything like this , tremendous spirit, i hear we're doing very well in florida and we're doing very well i hear every place else so thank you very much and your going to be very busy today, because we're going to work you hard. reporter: [indiscernible] who did you vote for today? president trump: i voted for a guy named trump. reporter: when is the first lady voting? neil: all right i voted for a guy named trump. donald trump just wrapping up voting in-person early voting is going on senator i don't think that warrants a fox news alert but again he's taking away the mystery who he voted for but let me ask you i was touching on energy i will get back to that, sir but how things are looking in this race right now, there's a lot of early voting as you know the president just added his name to the 4.7 million floridians who have already voted, 54, who knows by days end maybe 55-60 million votes already and i'm wondering how
that changes the equation for nine days from now. what do you think? >> well in texas we've seen close to 6 million people already cast their ballot. i know it's changing constantly but people are taking advantage of the opportunity not only to vote absentee by mail if you qualify but in person, and they are finding out that you can safely do so, and there's no real reason why people should worry about their health coming to the polling places, they are taking very stringent measures to try to make sure people can do that safely, but we're expect ing roughly between 11 and 12 billion voters in texas. the last race between beto o'rourke and ted cruz there were 8.3 million last time i was on the ballot in 2014 there were 4.7 million so we seen a huge influx of people to the state, young people coming of age and participating and everybody seem s to be extraordinarily eager to cast their ballot which i think is a positive thing. neil: you know, a lot of the
democratic money has been poured into the state thinking maybe it can tip democrat. do you think that's possible? i mean, some, not all, show the race surprisingly tight in your state. what do you think? >> well this is not so much me vs. my opponent as the environment we're in. obviously we've never had an election during a pandemic, or at least not for 100 years, and there's a lot of uncertainty the great economy that existed with the lowest unemployment rates in 50 years for particularly for african americans and hispanics that went away with the mitigation efforts and the shutdown, but to me the most important question, neil, is who is the best- prepared candidate running for president to help rebuild that great economy and i think clearly, that's president trump, his policies have been good for the country, and just to mention that another important advantage to having the white house will be voting to confirm amy coney barrett on monday, the third supreme court
justice in this president's term of office. neil: yeah, and in fact i said that was the next subject i wanted to bring up for those of you just tuning in right now you're looking at the presidential motorcade leaving west palm beach, florida he's voted in-person in florida remember he's a florida resident right now, so he's working today and so is the good senate. in fact the senate is in session this weekend i know, getting ready for the amy coney barrett nomination and the full senate vote on monday but what are you doing specifically today that warrants all of you guys being in? >> well the senate is in session, and as senators do, there's still a lot of speechify ing going on and people stating their case either for or against the nominee but the truth is, neil they've got nothing to talk about in terms of the nominee. she's an outstanding jurist, has been on the bench for three years, got a great record, she's a great human being and i think america was charmed when they saw her and her family, not only is she an outstanding
intellectual and well-prepared for this job she's a wonderful person because that's why you're hearing all of this speculation and how she may or may not rule on a future case which is largely made-up narrative. neil: all right now i know there are all sorts of maneuvers that's probably not the right term, senator that democrats have been trying or can or will continue to try to use in the next 24-48 hours to stop this , but you're saying it's definitely going to happen and if it does it would fall along party lines with only one party voting, right, the members the republican members of the senate. we've never seen anything like that in the past. what do you think just about that? >> well unfortunately, neil i guess starting back in 1987 the senator mcconnell was making this point to senator schumer and democrats yesterday, starting with the nomination of robert borke and now borking has become a verb for how politics get involved in these judicial
confirmation hearings. i think as judges have somehow been seen to shift from being umpires calling balls and strike s to being policy makers, unelected policy makers wearing robes that's why these nominations have become so contentious, but i see judge barrett as a course correction back toward the traditional role of judges where judges interpret the law as written under the constitution or by congress and don't try to stick their thumb on the scales of justice. that means they will be less political and i think that's a good thing. neil: well as you know, sir and you're pressed for time because you're working today, but democrats are furious the way republicans are handling this and they have vowed that if they take the senate, and certainly take the white house, they will seriously explore issues like packing the court and now joe biden intumated that he that he will get the commission to look into the matter but he did seem open to studying it. what do you think about that?
>> well chuck schumer has said everything is on the table, including making d.c. and puerto rico a state each one of which would get two senators and you're right. this idea of court packing that many democrats have embraced, all it would take is a vote of 51 senators and the house and the president to sign it into law, and even ruth bader ginsburg made the point during her lifetime that this be terrible for the supreme court. the supreme court is supposed to be an independent body and the independent judiciary is really the crown jewels of our american system, but they would try to turn it into just another political body, i think it be very bad for the country and certainly bad for the judiciary. neil: senator cornyn, thank you very much good seeing you don't work too long today but obviously, it's going to be an interesting next 48 hours, senator john cornyn, the old state of texas serves on a crucial role of the judiciary committee already voted amy
coney barrett for a full vote some time on monday we'll be covering that on fox as well thank you, senator in the meantime there is that issue of stimulus which was a very big issue certainly in the house where it looked like steven mnuchin, the treasury secretary, nancy pelosi the speaker, were very very close to getting together a deal, but looking at some comments and some stories that developed overnight, less confident right now. the biggest resistance though might not be among themselves on this but with the united states senate, that isn't keen on any of the plans either mnuchin are coming up with or nancy pelosi coming up with, so let's assume now that we don't get stimulus or at least the stimulus some folks had hoped for in the markets in the economy before the election. the impact with all of that with rebecca walzer adam lashinsky joining us right now, fox news contributor, rebecca let's say it doesn't happen. hope springs eternal and the markets seem to ride up and down on the prospect we might get it but it doesn't look at least to me that we will, so
then what? how do the markets digest that? >> i mean, obviously, neil markets don't like uncertainty so it be great if we got some additional stimulus. we certainly do need it in the economy. we've got great science going on neil but i honestly don't see it happening. we've got literally what it's a week from tuesday? so it's not going to happen before the election unless somehow, the senate republicans are very far apart from where the president is and also the house is for sure, so i just don't see it happening but you know, i still see some good positive signs so i think we'll get a deal done after the election a lot more things will be decided after the election. neil: adam, what about you? >> yeah, i mean i think it's reasonable to assume that something like this could happen in a lame duck session of congress, no matter who wins the white house and there's clearly political consensus that something like this needs to happen. if we don't get one in the next several months, neil, it obviously will be bad for the economy and that, at some point, has to be bad for
the markets. even if we continue to have this k-shaped recovery where the people who are doing well continue to do really well and the people who aren't don't. that downward slope of the k has to affect the upward slope of the k at some point. neil: all right, guys you know, a lot of people have been weigh ing in about the economic environment. it's the one issue despite the other general trends in the polls that don't look good for the president but it's the one issue that goes well for him, more americans think he be better able to handle the economy, keep it going, than his opponent. ken langone weighed into that, of course the home depot founder , billionaire that economic back drop is one thing that people are not appreciating i want you to respond to this , this is ken langone speaking on the economy. >> if a significant percentage of people that for whatever reason don't want to let people know where they are or how they're going to vote, and i think that's a big number out
there. the other thing, neil is let's be honest. look at the unemployment rate today in the middle of this pandemic and go back to 2008 when it was 10%. it's 7.4 now or 7.6 now whatever it is. the point is this economy, i believe is performing dramatically well in spite of the challenges that we're being confronted with. neil: what do you think of that, we've come down to high 7% unemployment rate, we had gone as high as almost 16% at the height of this pandemic. what do you think, rebecca, that that is the one thing that the president will no doubt be pounding, he's at the airport in florida right now en route to these big campaign rallies in north carolina, elsewhere ohio, but that theme that stick with me, the economy is coming back. >> he's right, neil. i mean, aside from biden's problems if he got elected as his economic policies which i
don't think are at all for a economy that's depressed but he's right. we're expecting 870,000 jobs we had almost 100,000 less with 78 7,000, on a week-by-week basis. if you look at which states are the highest -- neil: you're talking about jobless claims? but go ahead. >> yeah, sorry neil the week less jobless claim, exactly and we saw a slight bumpup the week before and we saw almost 100,000 less than we were expecting and if you look at the states california and new york are the highest initial filers of unemployment. these are the states that are really shutdown, texas comes out a third so not every state is shutdown but i'm just saying it's a matter of are we going to reopen or are we not going to reopen which is why the election being over will be a really helpful thing to get the economy going back but president trump is right there's only one more week of initial jobless claims that will come out this coming nurse, before the election, and i think that we're going to see that we're on a trend but we still need the stimulus neil so
we cannot continue this great number, we cannot continue this if we don't reopen or get more stimulus. but he's right. it's a great trend in the right direction, housing sales are on the fastest pace since 2006. we do have some good economic indicators but we do have to get the economy reopened. neil: you know, normally, i would side with the economic view with the economy's view and the market and all of those are very got rationales, but the virus supercedes everything else and indications today in the latest yesterday we had almost 85,000 new cases of the virus. that scares folks and especially some of these battleground states where it indeed is speaking places like wisconsin and ohio where it's sort of re trenching itself. that might be a bigger factor than even the president getting ready to leave west palm beach florida right now, might appreciate. what do you think? >> i think that's exactly the point, neil. this comes down to the politics.
not how the economy is, not what will happen, not what people perceive will happen, who the president is. it's comes down to the politics of the coronavirus, so ken langone's a great entrepreneur but he's not a pollster, so he has an opinion. maybe people are more interested in the economy than they are in the way president trump handled the coronavirus crisis. he's entitled to his opinion. the polling shows that as you said, neil, it isn't the economy it is the coronavirus. if that's true, then he doesn't win on november 3. neil: all right guys i want to thank you very very much, and you see , can you have a floatil la of suv's oh, you do, but there is the advantage when you're the president of the united states not to wait in line, to hop right on the plane and to have, you know, like a couple hundred others with you just to make sure everything goes okay but he is leaving west palm beach florida right now after voting today he made it very clear who he voted for a guy named trump and he's off to some of these battleground
states and he's got a schedule that includes north carolina, ohio and wisconsin stops today, and new hampshire tomorrow, pennsylvania, two stops in pennsylvania on monday, and on to michigan and west salem, and then omaha, nebraska you name it he's putting his stamp on it we'll have more, after this.
paid 50 times the tax in china has a secret bank the with china , does business in china, and in fact, is talking about me taking money? i've nod taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever. president trump: i don't make money from china, you do. i don't make money from ukraine. you do. you don't make money from russia you made $3.5 million, joe and your son gave you, they even have a statement that we have to give 10% to the big man. you're the big man i think. i don't know. >> my son has not made money in terms of this thing about what are you talking about, china? the only guy that made money from china is this guy. neil: all right the back and forth over who has the more financial ties to these countries, the ukraine and china , whether it registers is anyone's guess, but lucas tomlin son following the back and fourth very very
closely. reporter: neil officials say tony bobulinski was interviewed at the washington field office yesterday and late last night senator ron johnson blasted joe biden for being untruth full. >> vice president biden is now a serial liar. how many times, does he say oh, i never talked to hunter about his overseas businesses and yet we know he met with tony and hunter and james in los angeles in may of 2017 what do they talk about the weather? no they talked about the business. reporter: bobulinski claims he met with joe biden regarding his son's joint ventures including a chinese oil company in 2017 after biden left the white house but corporate records show he never received any proposed funds from the chinese firm and the new york times and joe biden report president joe biden had a previously undisclosed bank account in china, bob where he claims joe biden's role was not officially documenterred. >> hunter often referred to his
father as the big guy or my chairman. on numerous occasions it was made clear that joe biden's involvement was not to be mentioned in writing but only face to face. >> the biden campaign denies the accusation. "joe biden has never even considered being involved in business with his family nor in any overseas business whatsoever this is a desperate, pathetic farce, executed by a campaign with no rationale for putting our country through another four years of hell" at rallies in north carolina, ohio, and wisconsin expect president trump today to bring up what he calls the laptop from hell, neil? neil: all right thank you very much, lucas tomlinson in washington d.c., so forget about foreign ties from the past when it comes to a fair and balanced read of defense secretary one republican one democratic who are weighing in on foreign influence right now, going into his election and i had a chance to catch up with leon panetta
and chuck hagel, the democratic defense secretary among other things for barack obama and chuck hagel served in that role to do so in that administration and both express their concern about how we look to the world and how the world might be increasingly looking at us. take a look. your concern as second panetta is concerned is how this looks to the rest of the world as well. >> when the world sees us floundering, and off balance, and going through what we are going through now and probably will go through over the next few weeks unfortunately it makes the world more volatile. the world loses confidence in american leadership. >> but what both of them need to do is raise the issue of russian interference in our election because very frankly, that interference is what is undermining the american election system and we ought not
to accept that. neil: and our intelligence officials this week confirming the russians are playing around in this election again we don't know the degree to which it's happening but we know that they might have have accomplices iran mentioned as well as china and it could be a mess and that's what concerns both of these because it's going to lead to some disruptions in the process and maybe forget about taking a long time to count the votes the question the reliability of those votes and the accuracy of those votes and matthew whitlock is with us right now, the forming acting u.s. attorney general. i think what both of them are saying there's again an attempt to mess up with our elections and there's going to be a great deal of skiddishness sort of like we had 20 years ago with election results maybe not known for quite some time and this just compounds the nerves and anxiety around the election itself. what do you think of that? >> well, neil, thanks for
having me on as you know i served during the 2018 election and i saw firsthand sort of what we did as a department of justice as an intel community to counter some of the interference that other countries are doing. in 2016 that's one of the criticisms of the biden obama administration is that they didn't do anything to counter russian disinformation and other countries including china and north korea, iran as you always mention are always active trying to influence our election just as we try to influence other country's elections from time to time. i think american people need to be vigilant. they need to pay attention to where they are getting information from and the veracity of that information but one of the things i'm concerned about neil and i hope we can talk about today is some of these unsolicited ballots going out in places like nevada where they are collecting in apartment buildings and houses so there's a lot of threats to
this election and i'm certain that the fbi and others are on top of countering those threats instead of just supervising them like they did in 2016. neil: do you think that we're going to have a situation both defense secretaries were fearful of that we won't have election results clear on election night and it could dragon, i don't know almost a near month it took to settle the gore/bush battle, but that in that sort of void, there could be huge disruptions, protests, maybe even violence, and they're afraid about the signal that would send to the world. if you could advise both men, joe biden and the president, on how to project themselves and move forward, what would it be? how would you advise them to play this , to keep the heat down? >> well first of all, i would say exactly the opposite of what hillary clinton has told joe biden which is if you lose you
should concede. there is no reason to put our nation through this upheaval if there is a clear winner to the election, and i would tell both candidates that. and -- neil: just to be clear, she said do not concede. she said do not concede. >> correct, and so i would say the opposite, that if there's a clear winner then the other should be a statesman and concede. that being said -- neil: and that should be a statement of the president if it looks like it's overwhelming that he is losing he should concede that night or whatever. >> yeah, absolutely again, but we need to know the facts and so these are, neil this is a challenge with not knowing how the election and the hypotheticals that could happen. if we have multiple states that are razor thin, i think it could test our system. i hope that the american people are patient, and i hope actually that election officials do their job, count valid votes in that we get the election results consistent with the laws that
were in place up into election day because i think what american people aren't going to want is courts coming in after the fact changing the rules after the game has been played and that's where we have a lot of dapper and i'd recommend election officials to follow the rules that their state governors have already passed and put in place for this election. neil: yeah, just to be very very careful. matthew whitaker, thank you very much good catching up with you on that and to matt's point a lot of people are voting record numbers of early votes hit about 53 billion so far i fold you about the 4.7 million i guess we can add one the president of the united states in florida, 6 million in texas, and starting today, in-person voting getting underway in new york state. the latest on how that is going after this. ♪ upbeat music
over here. great people inside, so but it's an honor to be voting. it's an honor to be in this great area which i know so well and we're going to make three stops today, big ones, big rallies, three big ones, crowds have never been, i don't think there's ever been anything like this , there's tremendous spirit and i hear we're doing very well in florida and we're doing very well, i hear every place else, so thank you very much and you're going to be very busy today because we're going to work you hard. reporter: mr. president who did you vote for for today? president trump: i voted for a guy named trump. neil: there we go that was a fox alert there president trump voted for a guy named trump, adding his name to some 4.7 million floridians already voted early in that state it's kicking off in-person in new york right now. alex hogan is in new york city with more, how is it going there , alex? reporter: hi, neil well this is
the first day that new yorkers can vote early for the general election. take a look at this line right here. polls opened just about 45 minutes ago, but already some of these people have been out here for hours, and they have until november 1 for early shot before election day, on novembe. 280 polling places are now open state-wide about two-thirds of counties in new york only offer one polling location in their county creating long drives for many voters. early voting is expected to in had it long lines during the pandemic.
>> i just want to get it out of the way. i wanted to have my vote counted so much going on. >> i would say get out here today, tomorrow, get your vote days new york has the shortest early voting period in the country that's according to the national conference of state legislature, minnesota began early voting 46 days before the election on septembe. virginia giving voters 49 days to cast their ballot. those are pouring in around the country, 25 states allow in- person voting which 17 million people have now done, nearly 36 million americans have voted by mail, so far registered democrats outvote registered republicans and the number raising the question are more people actually voting or are these voters using different methods this year and in 2018 the election shattered the mid-term usual turnouts right here you can see a pretty heavy turnout, a lot of people standing in line that line stretches as far back as we can see , blocks down the way and the nypd will be monitoring 88 polling sites because of these higher numbers to make sure there is increased security ahead of the election. neil? neil: just incredible, thank you very very much, alex hogan looking at the long lines a great deal of demand to vote you wonder how it all sorts out we'll see how that happens here. in the mean tomb, we're telling about the president he's going to be very busy heading off to north carolina today, joe biden
neil: all right, we're waiting to hear from the former vice president, joe biden will be addressing a group in bucks county, pennsylvania later on i believe he's in lucerne county, pennsylvania both of these about an hour, hour and a half drive from his wilmington, delaware compound. so, when he is ready to speak, we'll take you to that in the meantime, if you hear all the poll kind of data and get deep inside what matters to americans, economy is the one thing but the virus and the
course of the virus is another thing and it's a much bigger issue with reports from the united states and a serious spike in new cases close to 85,000 the highest we've seen since back in july you'll see about 37 states experiencing spikes and about six of them very very serious in fact record spikes at that so when you get news that astrazeneca and j & j are resuming their vaccine testing as well as the fda has approved gilead sciences remdesivir to treat those who are getting hospitalized with the virus and a quick treatment to maybe limit that hospitalization these are encouraging developments. now how encouraging well let's get to a doctor on that, dr. ah med of the nyu lan gone medical center always good to have you this news that astrazeneca and j & j are going to resume their vaccine trials, a couple have been disrupted over problems with individual volunteers and all of that i think its been resolved but what do you make of that and how this changes the
timetable? >> i think you framed it very well. it's good news. we do have to say that these trials of vaccine developments whatever company are more scrutinized than any other vaccine development in history, so the public is getting to know about pauses, starts and stops that we wouldn't normally be informed about and i think the latest news about johnson & johnson was that whatever adverse effect was suspected was not related to the vaccine and may even have been in someone that was not receiving active treatment. remember, these trials are very carefully rigourously monitored. people are given much more than the planned treatment dose of the vaccine to look at the level of side effects so this is not surprising and this is good news , and then you mentioned it. the fda has approved remdesivir for use in everybody that weighs over about 88 pounds over 12 years of age. its had the emergency use authorization since may. it's part of standard clinical
practice in hospitals and because of the u.s. government foresite, it was accelerated manufacturing from the beginning of the pandemic. the data that led to the fda approval for remdesivir is very impressive. it's not the w. h. o. study that involved 13,000 patients in 30 countries and they said it doesn't reduce risk of death that was not well-controlled that was observational, those patients are very different. the remdesivir approval came on a study that is multinational but most of the senses, 45 of about 70 centers were in the u.s. we had over 1,000 patients in that study, 70-80% of those patients are americans about half of them are people of color so that really represents the patients that we're treating it shortens the time to recovery by a number of days. it reduces the time you need in hospital, it reduces the amount of resources you need in terms of oxygen, medicines, devices so it gets people out of a serious phase of the illness towards
recovery and that's very important when you're dealing with a pandemic size public health threat that the conservation of resources is also important, so actually i was very encouraged when i read that paper in the new england journal of medicine in detail. neil: you know, doctor, the back drop for all of this always the spikes in cases we're seeing across the globe in some countries leading to shutdowns, curfew, france, italy, portugal and on but even in this country the 85,000 or close to it new cases, the highest since july of six u.s. states now of that are at their highest, seven-day moving average for cases including kansas, nebraska, south dakota, 13 u.s. states that are now seeing a spike in hospitalizations, ohio, wisconsin, oklahoma, kentucky, what's going on or is this to be expected? i mean is this the second wave? is this just a punctuated end of the first wave? what's happening? >> so we know and especially looking back at the spanish flu
the pandemics come with big tsunamis and then successive waves and no doubt we're in a wave if you want to call it the first or the second wave really, i think at this point it's semantics. the cases are rising in the united states, but now, we're doing 1.3 million tests a day. at the beginning when i was in the intense off care unit here in new york langone, excuse me, we had barely a few hundred tests happening in the united states to begin with. it took us a long time to rollout tests so we are detect ing more virus, we are having, because more people are infected more hospitalizations and some intensive care unit stays that's happening. it's very controversial and i've really struggled with this. we've seen how that did help arrest virus propagation in new york but i'm also now seeing so many patients with mental health sequale of the isolation and people are absolutely fearful of going into the public ,
we know there have been documentations are suicide in western europe and britain and come out and the lockdowns are good for buying time while you're developing therapeutics, while you're developing vaccines. lockdowns, i understand why governments are imposing them. they cannot be a default response. one thing that we can work on, working on the built-in environment. we have immobilization in various parts of the united states and we have not upgraded the ventilation systems, hepa filters, uvc lights, lights that are safe that kill virus within minutes and can be used around adults and children and even hyper coloric acid used in the food industry for viruses
all of these can be used to make places safe so we don't have to go to the measures to take a huge toll on the mental health of tlie patients and also the economy of our nation. the other thing that's upsetting is while we've done tremendous research and really the united states has to be credited, with spearheading funding of vaccine development in the u.s. and all over the world. we're going to be having vaccines because of the decisions of this and benefit whoever wins the next election and people across the world. remdesivir is a company in the anti-viral field since 1987 and given us a broad spectrum anti-viral. it doesn't just help inn covid, it can have an effect in mers, a deadly version of another coronavirus organism and sars though it's not approved for those, but we can do more for the internal environment, to the public spaces, the schools,
the hospitals and universities and offices so people can come back to normal. that's very much overlooked. and one last thing if i can say, neil, and i know we could be bumped off by the former vice-president, is that china is ready with a billion doses of vaccine, and it's looking to inoculate southeast asia and africa as an act of global health diplomacy. china has developed a vaccine and contained its pandemic, so it doesn't have places to test phase three trials for vaccine products. it's looking to do that and assist other nations around the world in order to win diplomatic and other regional influence. the u.s. should be thinking in the same way. this is a global disaster that's befallen the world and with the united states to the rescue with the financing of vaccines and development of anti-virals, we're in a huge place to bring positive
influence and true benefit to every corner of the earth and we must not forget about that, even though our government has already pre-purchased 500 million doses of vaccine candidates ready to provide to every american and has a plan to make that possible for every american independent of income or demographic group. neil: well, very interesting. especially the chinese news, they created this-- >> china is very important and this is not just a pandemic-- >> now they have opened this potential remedy, right. >> right. neil: doctor. >> this is not just a pandemic we're responding to, this is-- it is regional super powers that would like to have an advantage over the united states vying for influence. let's not lose our eye off the ball. while we saw what the united states is facing. neil: that's a very good point. doctor, thank you of the nyu langone medical center. i want to take you back, she was referencing, the good
doctor was, that joe biden is speaking right now or will be soon in bucks county, pennsylvania. one of two big stops. the pennsylvania democratic senator bob casey. senator, very good to have you. this event in pennsylvania underscores yet another reminder of how important pennsylvania and its 20 electoral votes are, and i'm just wondering, post the debate and the dust-up over what joe biden was saying eventually phasing out the oil industry, i know he's put it back to 2050, and fracking, but the president states that he wants to kill jobs in states like yours. is it resonating with pennsylvanians? >> i think the record is clear, it's clear from what joe biden has said over and over again, and what i know to be the truth, which is he doesn't
support a ban on fracking, but what he wants to do is make sure that we do it the way that it should be done like it's done in pennsylvania, where it's done in compliance with environmental regulations and rules so you're not polluting people's water, their ground water, their drinking water, and polluting the environment, but i think that record is pretty clear. i know the president has been trying to muddy the water, not to overuse the analogy, but i think it's pretty clear to people. i think at the same time, a lot of people in our state that know that we've got to confront the challenge of climate change and deal with it and i think that's-- >> what he said, senator, when i said, i want to transition from the oil industry and tried to clarify, i've always said, i don't know what's surprising people. obviously, a big energy fracking state. are they on board with the notion they're going to transition away from it. if i'm a young worker and looking for a job in that industry and i'm hearing a
potential president say that it's going to start phasing out, there doesn't seem to be much of a future in it so i might look elsewhere. >> i think there's a future in it because in our state, fracking not only provides an opportunity for job growth and continued stability in the job market and a lot of employment, but makes us less dependent on middle east oil. so it's been a great benefit both in an energy sense as well as a job sense. joe biden is going to work hard to protect the environment and make sure that we still have those jobs that come from gas extraction. b but, neil-- no, i understand that, but he also addressed, senator the notion of taking away subsidies for the industry, i mean, to hear that in a state like yours or for such a big employer, is that going to hurt him? are people going to hear that and say i know he's low
emission, energy and all that, i know he's for cleaner fuels and all that, i just didn't know, you know, ow anti he was all that we're doing. what do you say to this? >> neil, i think it's pretty clear and most people in pennsylvania are concerned about two fundamental issues, right? the virus and jobs and the economy, both of which are interrelated. we can't recover fully until we tackle the virus, that's why the difference between the candidates. the president still doesn't have a virus plan, no plan to tackle the virus, no plan to create good paying jobs. joe biden is going to be in luzerne county today and that county just the last monthly number 18,000 people out of work, 12% unemployment and almost 28,000 people will lose their health care in they get their way on destroying the affordable health care act. and when people in luzerne county and thinking about the
statewide election, they're thinking about tackle the virus and the jobs plan. joe biden has got both and i think that's why he's ahead. neil: we haven't seen any polls post the debate comments. and it could be a lost worse if the energy industry in your state, in that county is walloped, right. how does he address that? what do you think he does? >> but, neil, that unemployment rate in luzerne county in pennsylvania and in america could be a lot better if the president got serious about tackling the virus. i had one question for the president on the virus. you have to wonder, would donald trump have gotten the coronavirus if president trump did a better job tackling the virus? we've got a-- we need a strategy, neil, to put this virus behind us. we should be ahead on that and we should be further down the road of creating millions of good paying jobs. joe biden's got a plan.
neil: over a hundred countries have it and the president of poland, the leader of great britain. it seems to have reckless abandon who it targets, it's across the globe. can you really blame the president for that, especially when you look at death rates, which is tragically, a metric you should consider, per 100,000 u.s. is 11th-- the u.s. is 11th on that list. i'm not minimizing the deaths, not minimizing everything that's happened, but on a per capita basis there are countries on this planet, a lot worse. >> neil, i think here are important numbers on deaths and cases. four in 20. we've got 4% of the world's population, 19 to 20% of the deaths and that number has been pretty steady and a little higher, 20, 21% of the cases in the world. just on that alone, it's clear
that we are not where we need to be. look, i live in northeastern pennsylvania, one county over from luzerne county, i'm in lackawanna, our case numbers are going up in these counties, going up statewide. we have to tackle the virus and it would be great for the country if the president wore a mask all the time, i could give him one that says vote on it and tackle the virus every day. everyone would be better off. he could affect the behavior of tens of millions of people. if more people were wearing the mask and taking it seriously. we could put the virus behind us and fully recover. neil: we'll see what happens. senator casey, thank you for taking the time from the state of pennsylvania. i want to go to john thune right now, of course the senator, going to be handling a lot of this with the amy coney barrett nomination coming up in the full senate. he is the majority whip there. so, senator, always good to have you. new for coming in on saturday.
>> thanks, neil. neil: i know you guys were working and talking to senator cornyn of texas earlier. you're watching, is it to get ready for the barrett nomination? is it to counter democratic moves to either push that vote back or do something to blunt it, what? >> well, kind of all of the above, actually. i mean, mainly the reason we're here so that democrats can continue to protest. we had a series of procedural votes yesterday. they're trying to do everything they can to delay or block her nomination. we're setting up for a vote tomorrow at 1:00, a cloture vote, a procedural vote as long as we have every republican here and available we'll win that and that will set up a final vote on judge barrett's nomination for monday evening, but under the senate rules there are 30 hours of post cloture debate. we expect the democrats to use
those hours so they can continue to demonstrate their supporters that they're protesting this and do everything they can to stop it. essentially what we're doing, live unanimous consent requests on the floor and we have to have somebody there to object to those. they'll be making speeches throughout the day both today and tomorrow, but right now, we're on a glide path to get to this vote sometime monday evening, presumably unless they yield time back and we are going to confirm her as a justice of the supreme court and that's a very exciting thing for the court and for this country. neil: senator, do you know that in fact all 53 republican senators will be there for the vote and will vote for the judge? >> we will have, i hope, everybody there. that's, you know, the key is making sure that we have a full attendance for a big vote like this, you know, we may not have all 53, but we'll have enough to confirm her. we need 51 votes out of the 53
republicans. and you know, obviously, there are a couple of our folks who are continuing to evaluate and look at her record, but in the end, we're fully confident that when monday rolls around we are going to have the necessary votes to confirm her to the court. and everybody who meets her, neil, including her opponents, the democrats, can't help, but walk away impressed with her qualifications, there's no question about that. the democrats are dug in over what they feel are process issues, and obviously, ideology issues, but she has demonstrated she's not somebody who is going to bring an ideology to the bench. she's somebody who is going to take the law, the constitution, the facts and as they are written, and apply them in an impartial way and that's exactly what we want to see in a justice on the supreme court. neil: you'll be stunned to hear that many democrats don't believe that. senator, i'd be curious, is the vice-president going to be around? i don't know why i say just in
case, but i guess, just in case? >> right, the vice-president, obviously, is the president of the senate and if there is a tie would cast the deciding vote. yes, presumably he will be available if necessary. i don't anticipate that we will need him, but we want-- we don't want to leave anything to chance here. this is a really important vote. one of the most consequential things that the united states senate cost and we expect to carry out that duty and that responsibility here in the next couple of days. >> it's safe to stay that just in the judiciary committee itself. no democrats with be participating and no democrats voting on monday. that would be a historic first, snubbing a nomination altogether. is that still likely the case? >> i think that's the case. they're under so much pressure for their leadership right now. this has become, unfortunately, as the democrats have politicized the court by their
tactics and not showing up in the judiciary committee, and not showing up yesterday on the floor when it was called up. they're doing everything they can to protest this, but the truth of the matter is, a lot of the democrats look at the court as an auxiliary branch. and that's not what the court is about, and judge barrett represents what we think the court should be about, a constitutionalist, in an impartial way apply the law and constitution. clearly, they're sore about this. they're not happy about it. it's unfortunate it's come to this because it used to be that these nominations were about qualifications. in the last three years, the democrats have consistently changed the rules going back to the borque nomination, all the judges they tried to block when george bush was president of the united states and that's kind of permanently changed the atmosphere around here when it comes to processing judicial nomination, but that can't stop us from carrying out our
judicial responsibility of advice ap consent in the senate and we're going to carry that out today, tomorrow, and on monday. neil: senator, you've got to get back to work here. on stimulus, it looks dead to me, it's not happening, is that right? >> i think that's a fair bet. the idea that we could mechanically process it and get it across the senate floor before the election becomes increasingly remote. the house would have to be called back in and they have to write the language and we have to deal with the pred did you recall hurdles in the senate. it's not a question of if, it's a question of when. we know we have to do more. we think it ought to be targeted and fiscally responsible. it shouldn't be this all or nothing approach that nancy pelosi is proposing, you do it my way or the highway and it's way too much money. it's spending money on things unrelated to the coronavirus. we believe we need to do more
to help businesses out there and we've voted in the senate several times on legislation that would do just that, that would provide unemployment, health businesses and schools and opening up safely, supporting resources for vaccines and therapeutics and testing. we've moved a bill on the floor now twice. and they've blocked it. and hopefully people can in good faith start to compromise, but right now my impression is the house democrats and speaker pelosi would much rather have the issue than they would have to have a solution. we want a solution. neil: all right. senator john thune, they good catching up with you, be healthy, be well. the next hours will be fairly eventful. and how about over bucks county, pennsylvania, joe biden will be speaking to supporters there right now and ed will be watching that and also, he's
going to be in luzerne county, pennsylvania, not too far away, hour, hour and a half drive at this location from his wilmington, delaware compound. he's coming hard at the president with the virus and he might explain on a controversial decision to eventually phasing out the oil industry. and some say it was a gaffe that will come back to haunt him in energy states like pennsylvania. we'll see. stay with us, you're watching fox. ue. choose. all. three. ready when you are.
danny, i guess it's no mystery, russia wants to monkey around things again and then you hear iran and then you hear china. when they're reportedly involved, they're doing stuff, what are they doing that catches intelligence officials' attention? >> first of all, neil, they're very good at what they do and they keep very close tabs on
news programs, on debates. clearly the e-mail that they put out referred as you remember, the proud boys, which shows that they-- the buttons and they know the words that kind of get everybody's takes, and so not only was it a technical marvel, but shows how closely they monitor our country and our news broadcast and obviously watched the debates and saw some hot buttons there and crafted their e-mail to reflect what is a hot topic here and tried to use it against the president of the united states. they're going to-- this is the tip of the iceberg, they're going to be doing this over and over and over again and fortunately we have a great intelligence community and they're getting all over it. when they do that, they're going to come public with it and that's a great thing. neil: what's interesting about that, you don't have to hack into an election or even steal votes or do something with the computerized voting machines and the like. you could just disrupt it by
changing the sentiment and the wave of, you know, populous support or anger online. how do they do that? >> (laughter) >> they're good. i mean, i couldn't do it. there's no way in the world i could ever do something like that, but that's all they do. they have entities and they have individuals and groups that monitor everything we do here, and they monitor us probably more than we monitor them. and they know how to get into social media, create fake accounts and that's the way they get these movements going and i think that's-- it's very sophisticated and we have to be very careful about the sources of our information. and rely on people that weng we can trust. probably social media is their big target. not probably, but clearly, that's their target and they're going to be good at it. neil: do they have competing interests? in other words, would iran and its interests align with russia or the chinese or could they be
canceling themselves out? >> i think they're probably in collusion to a degree. they know who they want to be the president of the united states and i think we have to look at track records with regard to their governments, their economy and the iranian economy is on its knees. and they don't like president trump. they could go after them. maybe some entity doesn't like biden. both parties are going to be attempt to compromise them and to sway the election. and so, i think the russians do it just to see if they can, frankly. i think they love to meddle and kind of their stock in trade. and sometimes i think it's for a political reason and sometimes it's a game they play. >> you know, it's fascinating, you always think of it in sort of james bond, where they're ripping up, or hiding ballots. when they're just fermenting things and that's if not, more so dangerous.
thanks so much. >> always a pleasure. neil: same here, my friend. former deputy assistant director at the fbi. jill biden is speaking right now ready to introduce her husband. let's go to pennsylvania part of a two-part stop in the keystone state. and these were picked for a specific reason. unemployment rate and a spike in coronavirus cases. let's go to the bidens. >> i love being here at a community college since i'm a professor at a community college. [applause]. [horns honking] >> so, patrick, speaking of our son beau. four days after our son beau's
funeral. i watched him shave, put on a suit, take a breath, put her shoulders back and walk into a world empty of our son. he went back to work for you as the vice-president. that's just who he is. and joe has faced unimaginable tragedies, but his purpose has always driven him forward. his strength of will is unstoppable. his faith is unshakeable because it's not in politicians or political parties, or even himself, it's in the providence of god. it's in the potential of our nation. his faith is in you. it's in us.
[applause]. [horns honking] >> through it all, he learned how to heal a broken family. it's the same way you heal a country, with love and understanding, and with small acts of kindness, with bravery, with unwavering hope. joe has spent his entire career listening and bringing people together and joe biden will be a president for all people. [applause]. [horns honking] >> and he has a plan to calm the chaos of donald trump's america, but he can't do it without you. right now there's so many who want to tell us that our country is hopelessly divided, that our differences are
irreconcilable. that our communities are fractured beyond repair and beneath that is another, your voice can't fix it, your voice doesn't matter. but that's not who we are, is it, bucks county? [applause], [horns honking] >> in this pandemic we're supporting each other and finding mercy and grace in the moments we might once have taken for granted. we're seeing that our differences are precious and our similarities are infinite. democrat and republicans, rural and urban, north and south, coast to coast. you, our communities, are showing that the heart of this nation still beats with kindness and courage. we don't agree on everything and we know we don't have to.
we can still love and respect one another, can't we? [applause], [horns honking] >> as most of you probably know, i'm a philly girl. [applause], [horns honking] >> i grew up in willow grove not far from here straight down broad street and i know not all pennsylvanians agree when it comes to flyers versus penguins, steelers versus eagles. gillian: sheetz versus wawa, but there are two areas we can be on the same page. number one, we all want to see the patriots lose. [applause], [horns honking]
and number two is that pennsylvania is ready for joe biden. [applause], [horns honking] >> so, are you ready to get this done? [applause], [horns honking] >> this is it, there are no do-overs. in this election, we have to believe that our communities are stronger than the challenges they face because they are. we have to believe that our votes matter because they do and we have to show up right now, put our shoulders back, and work like we have never worked before. so bucks county, will you join us? [applause], [horns honking] >> will you help us show that our country will never settle for less than our highest
aspirations? [applause], [horns honking] >> get ready for this one, will you stand for joe biden and kamala harris? [applause], [horns honking] >> because i know when you do, we will win. so thank you for being with us today. thank you to all of you for showing up now when it matters the most, and thank you for your faith in an idea that's bigger than any one of us and that is that we will build a better country because we are going to do this together, pennsylvan pennsylvania. [applause [applause], [horns honking] >> now, i'm excited to introduce tara, i often say that educators are the best organizers. how many educators are out
there? [cheers and applause] thank you! we know, we educators know how to make something out of nothing. we fight for our communities and we know when to use our teacher voice and tara, i know you are proving me right today. so come on up, tara. [applause], [horns honking] ♪ >> all right, we are waiting right now just a little bit. it wasn't according to the script, joe biden speaking right now. an educator in bucks county is going to be formally introducing the vice-president, the former vice-president in bucks county and later on moving on to luzerne county. of course, he has been making a pitch for educators, very supportive about their concern
about reopening in-person schooling. let's listen to this again. >> i'm tara huber, an english teacher in the neshaminy school district here in bucks county. [applause], [horns honking] >> as a teacher, the local federation of neshaminy teachers, as a wife and mother, i could not be more supportive of joe biden. joe biden is a member of the working class, humble roots like you and me. i grew up in philadelphia, my father was a plumber, local 690. [applause] >> and my mother worked as a secretary for a manufacturing company right here in bucks county. they're a proud hard-working people who are fortunate enough to make a decent wage, have access to health care, and have a pension for retirement.
>> all right, we're going to continue monitoring, this is a little bit after curve ball they showed us here, an educator about to introduce the former vice-president. i want to go to my friend and colleague leland vittert in washington. what's interesting about this pennsylvania venue, this is the first opportunity that joe biden can be back there to kind of reexplain his phase out the oil industry remarks from the debate. he's taken heat for that, confusion over fracking and chosen because of the high unemployment rate and that there are bigger concerns. leland, what do you make of that and how they've played this thing? >> they kind of go hand in hand, right, neil. in the sense that you've got a high unemployment in places that people lost their jobs in large part over the past 10 years or 15 years because of the energy policies put in place by the obama-biden administration. so, it's difficult to come back to a place and say, by the way, you lost your job because we said we were going to put coal
out of business or restrictions on coal and refrictions on fracking during my administration, but now i'm back here to tell you why i didn't mean that i'm going to end fracking and why my vice-presidenti vice-presidential candidate didn't mean she's going to end fracking and phase out energy and with unemployment. and these are the swing voters that went obama '08, obama 12, trump 16 that joe biden is going to have to flip back if he wants to win pennsylvania. neil: when you think about it, the latest polls, they're pre-the debate, a widening gap in pennsylvania. and biden 7 points, but you never know with these things as four years ago told us. i'm wondering the impact those energy comments had on biden and his numbers in the state. even in other states where fracking and energy are big employers, ohio comes to mind, wisconsin, et cetera. i'm wondering now, we just
don't know right now, but obviously, that is what the president has been pounding on his stops. leland: exactly. by virtue the fact that the vice-president in one of his few campaign stops, he's not barnstorming like president trump is, the fact that they're in bucks county pennsylvania, tells how worried they are about it. and as bret baier said, a bit of cleanup on aisle four the former vice-president's comments during the debate, how do we, shall we say, repurpose or redirect the conversation away from ending fossil fuels, which is what the vice-president talked about, and you think about how this is playing. it's not just in pennsylvania, but it's in texas, which is a state the democrats hoped at least was going to be a little bit in play. it's not playing well there. it's not playing all that well in denver, colorado. a couple of the front pages of various newspapers, denver post, biden's warning on oil
test voter resolve. it may not be a big issue for colorado for joe biden versus donald trump, maybe very critical in the senate race there with john hickenlooper, the democrat who is trying to take on the incumbent cory gardner. dallas morning news, g.o.p. drills biden over oil remarks, you have to imagine that the rough necks on the rigs and those who are supported by the oil industry in texas might now think twice about flipping their vote to joe biden. houston chronicle, trump puts oil on the ballot in texas race and the white house views it as a key issue and they have been playing at their rallies now, the president will get up and talk for a little while about joe biden, about his stance on fracking and then play back to back clips at his rallies on big monitors they have set up. so that tells you that the president and his team think this is an issue they can really make some inroads on here in the last 10 days before election day. neil: you know, when we
compared their campaign styles and strategies, of course, this is one of those rare moments where joe biden has left his home in wilmington only about an hour half ride to both locals he'll be at in pennsylvania today. but meanwhile, to your point earlier, you've got the president going to north carolina, and then in ohio, with is which is -- wisconsin, a whole different pace. >> a different pace and shows the different world views of the former vice-president and the current president. you see joe biden now walking off the stage there, but as you look at this, this doesn't look anything like a trump rally. you've got a couple of cars out there. he's taking the stage. and a couple of people in their cars, different from the raucous crowds, neil. neil: all right. yeah, it does seem like that pixar movie "cars". the former vice-president. united states, joe biden.
>> say about me i tell you if my father were here, he'd believe it and my mother would wonder who you're talking about. folks, i have an admission to make, there are so many here i wish i could go to car to car and meet you all. i don't like the idea of all of this distance, but it's necessary. i appreciate you being safe, what we don't want to do is become super spreaders, but thank you so much. i wish i could see all of you back there, but thank you, thank you, thank you for being here. [applause], [horns honking] for all of you who brought your kids, owe an ice cream cone, some reward for being here. tara, look, you're doing the most important work in america, teaching our kids. i've often said they're not somebody else's kids, they're all our kids the kite strings that lift our national ambitions along. without you we're in real trouble. i'm not saying this because i'm
married to a teacher, but i have to admit if i weren't saying i was married to a teacher if i weren't i would be sleeping in the lincoln bedroom alone. look, everything that will be possible for our country tomorrow is thanks to the hard work for our educator today and they're operating under extraordinary circumstances because you're giving kids here in bucks county the confidence to believe in themselves. it all gets down to confidence. we were talking before we came out and maybe i shouldn't say this, but i think that jill's second grade teacher is here, i bet you can remember who your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th grade receivers were. what they do and do it well give you a sense of confidence, give you a sense of your possibilities. i want to thank two great county commissioners, diane, you've done an incredible job turning things blue last year,
b bob, i want to thank you all. by the way i used to be a county commissioner. i ran for the united states senate because it's too hard being a county commissioner, ne know where you live. and when you knock on the door and say i'm a county commissioner, they go, oh, yeah, exactly what you do is more important because you affect their lives every day. i want to thank you, thank you, thank you, and thank all the speakers today, all of them and jim greenwood is an old buddy, good to see you, jim, i know you're here and patrick, thank you for mentioning our son beau. you know, i carry with me every day in my pocket a schedule, and my schedule, this is actually the last 12, 13 years now, on the back of the schedule i have written in the black box, the total number of troops who have died, who have been wounded in afghanistan and iraq and other parts of the world. because every one of these
troops, every one of these fallen angels left behind an entire community, left behind family, left behind people who are still mourning their losses. as of today in iraq and afghanistan, 6,924, not roughly 6,900. 6,924 because every one of them deserves to be remembered. u.s. troops wounded in iraq and afghanistan, 53,194, not 53,000. folks, folks, the idea of our president talks about these folks who gave their lives and gave their everything for this country as suckers and losers is all by itself in understanding why his six top
generals who have worked not fit to be the commander-in-chief. he doesn't understand the sacrifices they've made. [applause], [horns honking] >> nobody knows that better than patrick and christina, our next congresswoman, i'm looking forward to serving with you, kid. i'm looking forward to serving with you. you've got the grit and toughness and the smarts to get this done. and i really am. i mean it sincerely. let's be sure that we win back the white house you send along christina because she's going to fight like hell for the families of bucks county, for hard working folks. [applause], [horns honking] look, i'm not from bucks county, but i'm from pennsylvania, my home state and it's great to be back, back on bristol campus. around here though, as you all figured out, i'm known as jill biden's husband. i'm proud of it.
she grew up 25 miles from here in willow grove and she and i are here today because it's go time, folks. as my coach at delaware would say, it's go time, it's game day. we have 10 days left and it may come down to pennsylvania and i believe in you. i believe in my state. the choice has never been clearer and the stakes never been higher. the stakes in this election remind me of something my dad used to say. my dad, when coal died in scranton and jobs began to collapse. my dad wasn't a coal miner, my great grandpop was a mining engineer and a state senator from pennsylvania, but you know, he use today say when we had to leave to go to delaware to find a job. he said joey a job is about a lot more than a paycheck, it's about your dignity. it's about respect. it's about your place in the
community. it's about being able to look a kid in the eye and say, honey, it's going to be okay and mean it. that's the lesson i've never forgotten. that's what i grew up with surrounded by hardworking families in scranton and down the road in claymont, delaware. and how many today could look at their kids and say with confidence, everything's going to be okay, and mean it? how many hundreds of cars waiting in line right here in the bristol campus yesterday to pick up meals because proud families who always made it work are being pushed to the brink right now. times are hard. unemployment is way up. folks are worried about making their next rent or mortgage payment. whether their health care will be ripped away in the middle of a pandemic. worried about sending their kids to school. worried about not sending their kids to school. they see folks at the top doing
much better. while the rest are wondering, who is looking out for me? that's donald trump's presidency. more than 220,000 dead americans because of covid-19 and yesterday while he is telling us everything is all right, we saw the highest number, 85,000 new cases in one day since this pandemic began. and yesterday the worst day we've ever had, yes, at the debate on thursday night donald trump said and is still saying, we're rounding the corner. it's going away. we're learning how to live with it. what i told him at that debate, we're not learning how to live with it, you're asking us to learn how to die with it and it's wrong. it's going to be a dark winter ahead unless we change our way. experts tell us we're going to lose nearly another 200,000 lives nationwide in the next
several months all because this president cares more about the stock market than he does you. because he refuses to follow science. it's estimated if we just wore masks, just wore masks over the next few months, person in the administration says we'll save 100,000 lives. you know, you know what's really sad about this? the president knew this back in february. he lied to us. he told us he hadn't read the intelligence reports, that showed how bad this was, how deadly the virus was. but he went on television, he went on air, i should say, with bob woodward and he said he knew how deadly the virus was. and he hid it from the country. but here is what he did according to the new york times several days ago, his
administration, they didn't tell us about the virus. the administration gave wall street investors a heads-up. he didn't tell us. he just told his wall street friends and that's why they made so much money by quote, selling short in the market. they knew what was coming. what happened to the rest of us? he tried to claim he didn't want to panic the american people, but et american people don't panic, he panicked and he still has no plan. all he can do is double down on his park avenue way of looking at the world. before this pandemic he handed out 1.5 trillion dollars in tax giveaways to the wealthiest families in the nation and to the corporations. and now, even with 30 million americans have lost their jobs or hours, he thinks the way to get american economy back on track he's proposed another
multi-billion dollar tax cut for the corporations and super weal wealthy. affording to forbes billionaires have seen their wealth increase $700 billion. billionaires, that does not come from liberal think groups. that's coming from forbes. 700 billion dollars. but donald trump can't get his own party to deliver economic relief for working families, i don't think he wants to. the congress passed the heroes act way back in may. he's spent all of his time in his golf course sand trap or bunker not trying to bring back together anybody to get it done. they don't have time for that. to work on how to get relief now. the hard working people of those unemployed, the small businesses, to schools, in the
middle of this pandemic, they do have time though to spend several weeks on confirming the new justice who's interested in doing one thing, getting rid of obamacare. i'll tell you why. trump's dream of wiping out obamacare off the books is well underway, because his nominee, has said in the past the law should be struck down. if they get their way, over 100 million americans, including 5.3 million pennsylvanians will lose their protections for preexisting conditions that we work so hard to provide. complications of covid-19 will become pre-existing conditions, allowing insurers to jack up your premiums and deny you coverage and women will again be charged more for their health care just because they're women, which obamacare wiped out. but nothing is more offensive than the way he's spoken about, as i said those who served the
nation, suckers and losers. as i said, my son beau served in iraq and before that was assistant u.s. attorney in kosovo for six months. he came home a decorated war veteran. and all those he left behind, he wasn't a loser or sucker, he was a patriot like so many of you, so many of your sons and daughters. parents and grandparents. [applause], [horns honking] >> frankly, i've dealt with guys like trump my whole life, so have you, guys that look down on you because they have a lot of money. guys who inherited everything, got everything in their life given to them, and then, managed to squander it. guys who before paying their taxes because he's smart, he knows how to game the system. isn't that just the guy you want setting tax policy? the guy who says it's smart to
game the system so you don't get the help you need. you pay more taxes because they figure the rest of us, the little people, we can pick up the tab. now we find out trump has a secret bank account in china. well, guess what, he pays 50 times more in taxes in beijing than he's paid in america. that's a fact. he has hundreds of millions of dollars in debt, over 400 million, due in the next two years, who does he owe it to? where is it coming from? he's the guy known as president who is making money from foreign sources. folks, give me a break. this guy is not on the level. he thinks wall street built this country, but you and i know who really built this country, families like mine, working people, the middle class and unions built the
middle class. [applause], [horns honking] folks, we're so much better than this. we can bring back this economy. it starts with my plan to deal with this pandemic responsibly, bringing the country around to testing, tracing, masking, social distancing, not politicizing the race for a vaccine. planning for a safe and equitable distribution so everyone gets it. providing for funding, to open our schools and our businesses safely, the ppe national standards. bringing together republicans and democrats to deliver economic relief for working families and schools and in businesses. a majority want to do that even of those who are there now. as i said before, i'll shut down the virus not the economy and we'll-- we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we can build back better than
before. an independent analysis by moody's a wall street firm looked at my plan and his plan in detail and this is moody's and they said my plan will create 18.6 million jobs in the next four years. that's 7 million more jobs and $1 trillion more in growth than the president's plan and that comes from wall street and moody's. here is how my plan works. none of you will have your taxes raised. anyone making less than $400,000 will not see a penny in taxes raised, you'll actually see your standard of living go up and costs go down. and why i'm going to do this, i'm going to ask big corporations, wealthy to pay their fair share. right now. of the fortune 500 companies, there are 91 who don't pay a single penny in tax. if they just paid 15% instead
of the 28 they should, that would raise $400 billion. and allowing to send every qualified person to community college if that's what they chose for free. make sure everyone with a family income less than $125,000 could go to a state university for free. [applause], [horns honking] make sure you could have your health insurance covered. folks, my dad used to say, if everything is equally important to you, nothing is important. what are your priorities? when they say to my dad, let me tell you what i value, joe. my dad looking at me, don't tell me what you value, show me your budget. i'll tell you what you value. all of this parking lot value opportunity, decency, respect, making sure there's a fair play out there. it's time for working people in the middle class to get tax
relief to help you buy your first home, to pay for that child care, or caring for an aged loved one. how many single moms or moms and dads today made the decision if their school was open, do i go to my job or do i stay home with my child if it's not open? how do i leave them behind? what do i do? we're going to also make health care affordable for everyone. i'm going to build on the affordable care act, so you can keep your private insurance if that's what you choose to do or you can choose medicare-like option if you're poor. look, we'll increase subsidies to lower your premiums and deductibles and out of pocket expenses. it's been looked at, it's real, positive. lower your prescription drug cost in this country by 60%. and i say that sounds great, joe. how are you going to do that? we're going to allow medicare to negotiate with the drug
companies how much they can charge for their prescriptions and all the drugs. look, we're going to make sure to keep your protections for pre-existing conditions. barack obama and i fought too hard for that and won. we're going to protect your social security and medicare. not what he's doing. he says reelect me and i'm going to do away with the funding for social security out of your paychecks. sound great except the actuary at social security said that will bankrupt social security by 2023. to go home and tell your parents what a good guy this guy is. we are going to create millions of union jobs with the infrastructure modernizing it, rebuild american manufacturing by enforcing a buy america plan. let me be clear. the fact is that the president
of the united states there's over 600 billion in contracts awarded to get things done everything from building ships to infrastructure. no one will get a contract and does not violate any trade policy. no one will get a contract in a biden administration that doesn't provide product all of which are made in america, made in america. create millions of new jobs. look, let me be clear, also, i'm not banning fracking in pennsylvania or anywhere else. protect pennsylvania jobs period. no matter how many times donald trump lies he's never delivered on his promise for big structure plan. he told you in 17 i've got an infrastructure plan coming and then 18, 19, and 20. and he hasn't done a thing. it's right up there with him saying he's going to protect
pre-existing conditions. he hasn't done a thing. well, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to build road, bridges, that are crumbling, climate change, accelerated more frequently and extreme weather events. just look at wildfires in california, hurricanes along the gulf coast. my state of delaware, one of the lowest lying states above sea level on the verge of being flooded. according to the best data we have, southeast pennsylvania, including bucks county, is warming faster than any part of this state. how long before floods start picking up along the delaware river? we can do something about this. and we better get it done. we better get it done and by the way, we don't do things like those chumps out there with the microphone are doing, the trump guys. [applause], [horns honking] it's about